VALE Earningcall Transcript Of Q2 of 2024


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Eduardo de Salles Bartolomeo -- Chief Executive Officer

OK.  Thank  you,  and  good  morning,  everyone.  Here  we  are  at  the  halfway  mark  of  2024.  So  let's

take a look at the progress we've made on our key levers to unlock value at Vale.

Starting with our Safety journey, we are very pleased to inform that we have eliminated the B3/B4

dam, and we were able to achieve this one year ahead of the original schedule. We are working on

two additional structures to be eliminated in 2024. By the end of this year, we will have completed

more than 50% of our decharacterization program, a significant milestone. On our second level, we

continue to see progress on iron ore operational stability with consistent performance and the third

consecutive quarter of year-over-year increase in production.

Our C1 cost that was seasonally higher in the second quarter, is on track to reach our guidance of

$21.5 to $23 per ton for the year, especially as our product mix and fixed cost dilution improves in

the second half. On iron ore growth and quality, Vargem Grande is on its way to start up in the next

months, and the Capanema project is on track for the middle of next year for a combined capacity

addition  of  30  million  tons.  We  approved  the  Sohar  concentration  plant,  this  will  serve  as  a  pilot

project  of  our  Mega  Hubs  strategy,  which  will  redefine  industry  supply  chains,  foster  additional

demand  for  high-quality  pellet  feed  and  position  Vale  as  the  world's  most  competitive  direct

reduction concentrate supplier. In Energy Transition Metals, our Onca Puma, Sossego, and Salobo

plants have also resumed operations with no impact on our guidance for the year.

We  recently  announced  the  new  CEO  of  Vale  Base  Metals.  Shaun  Usmar  brings  his  extensive

mining experience and strategic vision to lead the Company throughout its value creation pathway.

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In our pursuit toward ESG Leadership in mining, we are reinforcing our commitment to transparent

disclosure with the adoption of TNFD and ISS. On capital allocation, we recycle capital, increasing

the maturity of our debt.

And  yesterday,  we  announced  an  interest  on  capital  of  $1.6  billion  related  to  our  first  half  of  '24

performance according to our dividend policy. Now let's go into the details of these highlights. Next

slide. On dam safety, we concluded the decharacterization of B3/B4 dam, one of the dams that was

put at the highest emergency level in 2019.

Dikes  1A  and  1B  are  the  other  two  structures  to  be  eliminated  this  year,  after  which  we  will  have

completed  53%  of  our  decharacterization  program.  This  is  pioneer  process,  and  we  are  gaining

experience  and  expertise,  which  is  helping  us  to  advance  well.  We  remain  committed  to  the

elimination of all upstream dams in Brazil in a safe and conservative manner. Next slide, please.

On  iron  ore  production,  we  delivered  robust  operational  performance  once  again,  the  third

consecutive quarter of year-over-year increase in production. This is a direct result of our efforts to

improve  the  reliability  and  stability  of  our  assets  and  processes  as  per  our  management  model.

S11D achieved a historical production record for a second quarter and the asset is a fundamental

piece of our strategy for growing high-quality products in our portfolio. The S11D plus 20 million tons

expansion project is scheduled to start up in 2026 and will support production growth.

Finally,  I  would  like  to  highlight  our  sales,  which  grew  7%  year  over  year,  reflecting  our  strong

performance. The result of the first semester reinforces our confidence and commitment to meet the

top end of our 2024 guidance. This demonstrates that Vale now has a business with much greater

predictability, providing a solid foundation for the future. Next slide.

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Our  key  iron  ore  projects  are  underway  to  increase  capacity.  In  the  next  12  months,  we  have  two

main projects coming online. The Vargem Grande project to start up in the coming months will add

15  million  tons  per  year  of  high-quality  iron  ore  capacity  with  a  very  low  capex  investment.  The

Capanema  project  is  progressing  well,  with  the  precommissioning  activities  initiated,  and  will  also

bring an additional 15 million tons per year of high-quality ore capacity after the first half of 2025.

Next slide. Advancing on our long-term strategy, we signed an important agreement to develop the

concentration  plant  in  Sohar,  a  project  presented  during  Vale  Day  in  December.  The  Sohar

concentration plant will significantly increase the availability of high-quality pellet feed by 12 million

tons per year. This will enable us to produce feed for direct reduction agglomerates, enhancing our

operational capabilities and product offerings.

This  asset-light  business  model  has  a  low  investment  obligation  from  Vale  and  an  internal  rate  of

return  exceeding  30%,  making  it  a  highly  accretive  investment.  This  partnership  will  serve  as  a

model for future mega hubs in the region and pave the way for a more sustainable future, allowing

the  production  of  metallics  through  low  CO2  emission  routes.  It  marks  the  first  significant  step

toward new developments to come. Next, please.

Now moving to the Energy Transition Metals business. Looking at our Copper performance, despite

the headwinds in the quarter, we had a 5% increase in production in our plants in Brazil. On Nickel,

production  reflected  our  planned  maintenance  strategy,  and  we  are  on  track  to  deliver  the

production  guidance  for  2024.  In  Sudbury,  improved  mine  performance  resulted  in  reduced

consumption of third-party feed and lower costs.

We are confident that we're putting together a great team as seen on the appointment of Shaun as

CEO and taking the right steps to transform the Energy Transition Metals business. Next slide. On

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our  ESG  strategy,  we  want  to  reduce  our  impacts  generating  positive  outcomes  for  nature  and

people. For that, we have three main pillars to support our nature actions.

First,  keep  the  first  that  we  have  standing.  At  Vale,  we  protect  11  hectares  for  every  one  hectare

affected by our activities. In 2019, we committed to increasing protected areas by 500,000 hectares,

and  we  are  already  at  35%  of  this  target.  The  second  pillar  is  bioeconomy  and  create  a  business

environment favorable to the conservation of native forests.

And our third pillar is to fight extreme poverty, which will help avoid the legal exploitation of land. Our

strategy  led  us  to  prioritize  the  adoption  of  TNFD  and  ISSB.  We  believe  this  will  help  our

stakeholders to better understand and assess companies on their ESG progress. Before we move

to our financial results, I would like to comment that we are delivering on our commitments.

Our strong operational performance continues quarter after quarter and we are in a very good shape

for  the  second  half  of  2024.  Now,  I'll  pass  the  floor  to  Gustavo  to  comment  on  the  financial

performance, and I'll get back to you on the Q&A. Thank you. 

Gustavo Pimenta -- Executive Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations

Thank  you,  Eduardo,  and  good  morning,  everyone.  Let  me  start  with  our  EBITDA  performance  in

the  quarter.  As  you  can  see,  our  pro  forma  EBITDA  reached  $4  billion  in  Q2,  driven  by  strong

operational  performance  across  all  commodities.  This  is  a  result  of  our  continued  focus  on

operational excellence and asset reliability, and the record iron ore production in Q2 since 2018 is a

testament of that.

As  part  of  our  asset  integrity  program,  we  had  a  concentration  of  maintenance  activities  in  Q2,

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particularly in April, which, together with inventory turnover effect and higher freight rates more than

offset higher iron ore sales in the quarter. The good news is that our C1 significantly declined by the

end  of  Q2,  while  rising  volumes  in  the  North,  coupled  with  reduced  maintenance  works  in  the

second  half  provide  us  with  a  solid  run  rate  to  deliver  a  strong  operational  performance  in  the

coming  quarters.  I  will  go  into  the  details  of  our  C1  dynamics  in  the  next  slides.  On  a  sequential

basis,  our  pro  forma  EBITDA  increased  15%,  driven  by  25%  higher  shipments,  partially  offset  by

higher operating costs and lower realized iron ore prices.

Now  I  would  like  to  provide  more  color  on  our  realized  all-in  premiums  for  the  quarter.  Vale  has

many sites and a broad product portfolio,  ranging from high silica products that trade at discounts

compared to the benchmark to direct reduction pellets with a 67% iron ore content. Typically, high

silica products from the southern and southeastern systems are blended with Carajas to create our

main product, BRBF. This is a premium product with low alumina and 5% silica content.

As  the  average  silica  content  naturally  increases  in  the  Southern  and  Southeastern  systems,  we

have been using a higher proportion of Carajas in the blend, implying increased availability of high

silica products to be sold directly in the market. This higher availability is even more pronounced in

the  first  half  of  the  year  due  to  the  production  seasonality  in  the  Northern  System.  On  top  of  that,

based on product availability, we evaluate commercial options cargo-by-cargo, aiming to maximize

value, either by concentrating these products in China, selling them directly or holding the inventory.

In Q2, with quality discounts below historical levels, direct sales were the most attractive option with

an EBITDA per ton of around $20.

As a consequence, our realized all-in was actually $0.1 per ton negative despite 7% of the portfolio

being  sold  with  premiums  above  the  benchmark.  In  the  second  half  of  2024,  we  anticipate  a

reduction in the share of high silica products in our mix due to the increased production in the north,

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supporting better premiums. More importantly, looking into the coming years, the share of high silica

products in the sales mix should gradually decline with the start-up of growth projects like Vargem

Grande,  Capanema,  and  particularly,  the  S11D  expansion.  In  addition,  the  development  of

concentration plants like the one in Sohar will also contribute to structurally reduce our share of high

silica products.

Now  let  me  turn  to  our  cost  performance.  In  iron  ore,  our  C1  cash  costs,  excluding  third-party

purchases,  was  $24.9  per  ton  in  the  quarter,  mainly  impacted  by  an  inventory  turnover  effect  as

expected for a second quarter. This is how the inventory effect works. Vale has an extensive supply

chain  and  around  30%  of  our  sales  in  the  quarter  are  composed  by  inventories  from  the  previous

quarter.

Also, we note that production costs in Q1 are usually the highest in the year given lower fixed-cost

dilution. As a result, in Q2, the difference in inventory cost impacted C1 by $1.8 per ton sequentially.

In this quarter's financial report, we have started to disclose our production costs per ton in order to

provide  a  better  view  on  our  C1  cash  cost  trends.  We  remain  highly  confident  in  achieving  our

guidance for 2024 of $21.5 to $23 per ton.

Our  production  cost  in  June,  excluding  inventory  effects  was  already  significantly  down,  reaching

$22 per ton. This is a solid indicator of our potential in the second half of the year with benefits from

greater  cost  dilution,  increased  production  in  the  Northern  System,  and  reduced  maintenance

activities  during  the  dry  season.  Now  moving  to  our  Energy  Transition  Metals  business.  We  were

pleased  to  have  another  quarter  of  significant  year-on-year  reduction  in  our  all-in  cost  in  nickel,

which were down 12% to $15,000 per ton.

This is mostly due to lower third-party feed purchases as well as by a reduction in expenses as we

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wrote  down  some  high-cost  inventories  in  Q2  '23.  With  Q1  and  Q2  all-in  cost  averaging  less  than

$15,000 per ton, we are well-positioned to reach our 2024 all-in guidance of $14,500 to $16,000 per

ton this year. In copper, all-in costs increased 18% year on year to about $3,600 per ton, driven by

increased  unit  COGS  due  to  maintenance  at  Salobo  and  Sossego.  All-in  costs  average  about

$3,500 per ton in first-half 2024, below our 2024 all-in guidance range of $4,000 to $4,500 per ton.

Now  moving  on  to  cash  generation.  Free  cash  flow  generation  was  $0.2  billion  negative  in  Q2,

impacted by a higher concentration of payments to suppliers, high execution of concession contract

obligations, and lower accounts receivable following the 4.3 million tons of iron ore sales accrued at

the end of the quarter. We expect working capital to positively reverse in the second half. Still, our

cash and cash equivalents increased by $3.1 billion in Q2.

This  increase  was  primarily  driven  by  the  $2.5  billion  proceeds  received  following  the  Vale  Base

Metals partnership as well as by the issuance of $1 billion in bonds in June, mostly used for liability

management in July. Our capital expenditures were flat quarter on quarter at $1.3 billion and we're

on track to meet our capex guidance of around $6.5 billion for the year. Also yesterday, our board of

directors  approved  a  distribution  of  $1.6  billion  in  interest  on  capital  to  be  paid  in  September  this

year, reinforcing our continued commitment to return value to our shareholders. Before moving on to

the Q&A session, I would like to reinforce the key messages from today's call.

Safety and their management continue to be a key priority for Vale, and we are encouraged by the

progress in our decharacterization program, having fully decharacterized the B3/B4 dam. Our strong

operational performance continues to be seen quarter after quarter, and we are on track to deliver

our  production  and  cost  guidance  for  the  year.  In  fact,  on  iron  ore,  we  are  now  very  confident  on

reaching  the  top  end  of  the  310  million  to  320  million  tons  production  guidance  range.  On  our

strategic objective to be the supplier of choice for low-carbon steel production, we are very pleased

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with the advancement of Sohar concentration partnership in Oman, which will serve as a pilot for the

upcoming Mega Hub projects with very attractive returns.

At  VBM,  our  cost  performance  has  been  solid  so  far  in  the  year,  and  we  see  room  for  continued

improvement,  particularly  as  the  asset  review  plan  is  gradually  executed.  Lastly,  we  remain  highly

committed  to  disciplined  capital  allocation,  controlling  expanded  net  debt  within  our  target,  taking

advantage  of  asset-light  growth  opportunities,  and  rewarding  shareholders  with  solid  remuneration

through dividends and buybacks. Now, I would like to open the call for questions. Thank you.

Operator

Questions & Answers:



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