TRADEWEB-MARKETS Earningcall Transcript Of Q2 of 2024


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Billy Hult -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks,  Ashley.  Good  morning,  everyone  and  thank  you  for  joining  our  second  quarter  earnings

call. This was another outstanding quarter as Central Bank step back private sector intermediation

continues to be in vogue. From evolving inflation print to snap elections across Europe and the U.K.,

the  macro  debate  continues  to  flourish  globally  and  our  one-stop  solution  is  resonating  with  our

clients.

At our core, we are a technology company that caters to the financial service industry. We have a

simple job how can we continue to save our clients, time and money and provide them with more

efficient means of trading in the financial markets. Change is constant and we are focused on being

on the forefront of that change via technological, market structure or behavioral. As the markets and

our clients evolve, we continue to position Tradeweb for the future.

After  closing  our  acquisitions  of  Yieldbroker  and  r8fin,  we  are  pleased  to  have  announced  the

signing of an agreement to acquire ICD in April. We are on track to close ICD shortly, which will add

corporates as our fourth client channel. Diving into the second quarter, we achieved our best second

quarter in our history. Specifically strong client activity, share gains and risk on environment drove

30.4% year-over-year revenue growth on a reported basis.

We continue to balance investing for growth and profitability as adjusted EBITDA margins expanded

by 98 basis points relative to the second quarter of 2023. Turning to slide 5. Rates and credit led the

way,  accounting  for  61%  and  29%  of  our  revenue  growth,  respectively.  Specifically  the  rates

business  was  driven  by  continued  organic  growth  across  global  government  bonds,  swaps  and

mortgages and was also supplemented by the addition of r8fin and Yieldbroker.

Credit was led by strong U.S. and European corporate credit with record quarterly market share in

electronic U.S. investment grade and aided by strong growth across municipal bonds, China bonds

and  credit  derivatives.  Money  markets  was  led  by  continued  growth  in  institutional  repos,  equities

posted  low  single-digit  revenue  growth  despite  challenging  industry  volumes  in  our  core  ETF

business.

Finally,  market  data  revenues  were  driven  by  growth  in  our  LSEG  market  data  contract  and

proprietary data products. Turning to slide 6. I will provide a brief update on two of our focus areas;

U.S. treasuries and ETFs and then I will dig deeper into U.S.

credit and global interest rate swaps. Starting with U.S. treasuries. Record second quarter revenues

increased by 28% year over year led by records across all our client channels.

Our institutional business saw record adoption of our streaming protocol and growing usage of our

RFQs offering. The leading indicators of the institutional business remains strong. We gained share

and achieved record quarterly market share of U.S. treasuries versus Bloomberg crossing the 50%

threshold for the first time, which we have maintained.

Client  engagement  was  healthy  with  institutional  average  daily  trades  up  45%  year  over  year.

Automation  continues  to  be  an  important  theme  with  institutional  U.S.  Treasury  AIX  average  daily

trades increasing by nearly 100% year over year. Our wholesale business produced record volumes

led by our streaming offering.

Our other protocols also saw strong growth, particularly our CLOB which has begun to trend higher.

Our recent acquisition of r8fin is off to a strong start, contributing approximately 2.3% to our overall

U.S. Treasury market share, complementing our CLOB and streaming protocols. The team remains

focused on onboarding more CLOB liquidity providers over the coming quarters, as they deliver on a

holistic strategy across our wholesale protocols.

Within equities, our ETF revenues grew mid-single digits, but faced a tough industry backdrop given

lower equity market volatility. Other initiatives to expand our equity brand beyond our flagship ETF

franchise  continue  to  bear  fruit  with  second  quarter  convertible  bond  revenues  increasing  by  10%

year  over  year.  Looking  ahead,  the  client  pipeline  remains  strong  as  the  benefits  of  our  electronic

solutions  continue  to  resonate.  We  believe,  we  are  well-positioned  to  capitalize  on  the  long-term

secular ETF growth story, not just in equities, but across our fixed income business.

Turning to slide 7 for a closer look at another strong quarter for credit. Strong double-digit revenue

growth  was  driven  by  33%  and  29%  year-over-year  revenue  growth  across  U.S.  and  European

Credit, respectively. We also achieved strong double-digit growth across munis, China Bonds, and

credit derivatives.

Automation continued to surge with global credit AiEX average daily trades increasing by about 45%

year over year. We set another fully electronic quarterly market share record in U.S. IG helped by

record  IG  block  market  share  of  9%.  We  also  achieved  our  second  highest  fully  electronic  market

share in U.S.

high yield. Our institutional business continues to scale as clients adopt our diverse set of protocols

to  improve  liquidity,  price  transparency,  and  efficiency.  Our  primary  focus  on  growing  institutional

RFQ  continues  to  pay  off  with  average  daily  volumes  growing  30%  year  over  year,  with  strong

double-digit growth across both IG and high yield. Moreover, portfolio trading average daily volume

rose 100% year over year with IG portfolio trading reaching record levels.

We  continue  to  focus  on  leading  with  innovation,  and  this  is  resonating  with  our  clients.  We  saw

portfolio trading users grow by over 20% year over year, a record number of line items traded in the

quarter, and our largest ever portfolio trade in excess of $3 billion. Retail credit revenues were up

over  20%  year  over  year  as  financial  advisors  continue  to  allocate  investments  toward  credit  to

complement their buying of U.S. Treasuries and retail certificate of deposits.

AllTrade produced a solid quarter with nearly $190 billion in volume, up over 45% year over year.

Specifically, our all-to-all volumes grew over 20% year over year and our dealer-RFQ offering grew

over  10%  year  over  year.  The  team  continues  to  be  focused  on  broadening  out  our  network  and

increasing the number of responders on the AllTrade platform. In the second quarter, the average

number of responses per all- to-all A2A inquiry rose by 35% year over year.

We  also  continue  to  increase  our  engagement  and  wallet  share  with  ETF  market  makers.  Finally,

our sessions average daily volume grew over 60% year over year and produced the second highest

quarterly average daily volume ever. Looking ahead, U.S. credit remains our biggest focus area and

we like the way we are positioned across our three client channels.

We  believe  we  have  a  long  runway  for  growth  with  ample  opportunity  to  innovate  alongside  our

clients.  Our  strategy  is  focused  on  expanding  our  network,  increasing  our  wallet  share,  enhancing

our pre and post-trade analytics and continuously improving our protocols and client experience. In

the  second  quarter,  we  enhanced  our  RFQ  offering  with  our  rollout  of  RFQ  Edge,  where  we're

already seeing over 25% of our RFQ users utilizing RFQ Edge. RFQ Edge takes the traditional RFQ

list ticket and incorporates real-time trading data, charting functionality, and execution cost analysis.

We also remain very focused on chipping away at high yield, and we believe we are well positioned

to  replicate  the  success  we've  had  in  IG.  Specifically,  we're  making  progress  in  our  Aladdin

integration with the goal of improving the client experience and increasing electronification in these

markets. We're still on Phase 2, which is focused on all trade and RFQ, but our teams are already

out  on  the  road  meeting  with  respective  clients  and  walking  them  through  all  the  enhancements

made to date. With our Aladdin integration closing a gap and providing a foundation for growth, we

expect  high  yield  growth  from  here  to  be  driven  by  the  expansion  of  our  client  network  led  by

strategic sales hires, functionality enhancements and stronger penetration with ETF market makers.

Beyond U.S. credit, our EM expansion efforts continue with growing adoption of our portfolio trading

and  RFQ  offerings  and  early  positive  signs  across  wholesale  EM.  On  the  product  side,  we  are

focused  on  leveraging  our  diverse  product  expertise,  enhancing  our  integration  with  FXR  and

continuing to build out functionality for multi-asset package trading. Moving to Slide 8.

Global  swaps  produced  record  revenues  driven  by  a  combination  of  strong  client  engagement  in

response to the macro environment and continued market share gains. Strength here was partially

offset by a 3% reduction in duration and elevated quarterly compression activity. All in global swaps

revenues grew 56% year over year and market share rose to 23.6% with record share across dollar

G-11  and  EM-denominated  currencies.  Central  to  our  ethos  is  our  focus  on  helping  clients  by

connecting the dots across fixed income products.

Given  the  heightened  market  volatility  across  money  markets,  our  repo  clients  have  been

increasingly referencing swap curves, when evaluating fixed-rate repo trades. Yet their process was

cumbersome,  and  our  clients  asked  for  a  better  solution.  During  the  quarter,  we  became  the  first

electronic  trading  platform  to  make  overnight  index  swap  curves  available  during  the  repo  trade

negotiation  process,  helping  institutional  clients  assess  the  price  competitiveness  of  different  repo

rates  across  different  currencies  and  maturities.  Finally,  we  continue  to  make  progress  across

emerging markets swaps and our rapidly growing RFM protocol.

Our second quarter EM swaps revenues more than doubled year over year, and we believe there is

still significant room to grow given the low levels of electronification. Our RFM protocol saw average

daily volume rise over 115% year over year with adoption picking up. Looking ahead, we believe the

long-term  swaps  revenue  growth  potential  is  meaningful.  With  the  market  still  about  30%

electronified, we believe there remains a lot we can do to help digitize our clients' manual workflows,

while the global fixed income markets and broader swaps market grow.

And with that, let me turn it over to Sara to discuss our financials in more detail.

Sara Furber -- Chief Financial Officer

Thanks,  Billy,  and  good  morning.  As  I  go  through  the  numbers,  all  comparisons  will  be  to  the

prior-year  period,  unless  otherwise  noted.  Slide  9  provides  a  summary  of  our  quarterly  earnings

performance. As Billy recapped earlier, this quarter we saw record second quarter revenues of $405

million  that  were  up  30.4%  year  over  year  on  a  reported  basis  and  30.8%  on  a  constant-currency

basis.

We derived approximately 38% of our second quarter revenues from international clients, and recall

that  approximately  30%  of  our  revenue  base  is  denominated  in  currencies  other  than  dollars,

predominantly  in  euros.  Our  variable  revenues  increased  by  40%  and  total  trading  revenues

increased by 31%. Total fixed revenues related to our four major asset classes were up 4.2% on a

reported  and  4.5%  on  a  constant-currency  basis.  Fixed  revenue  growth  was  primarily  driven  by

previously disclosed dealer fee increases in credit that were instituted at the start of the third quarter

of 2023.

And other trading revenues were up 9%. As a reminder, this line fluctuates as it reflects revenues

tied  to  periodic  technology  enhancements  performed  for  our  retail  clients.  Year-to-date  adjusted

EBITDA margin of 53.6% increased by 117 bps on a reported basis when compared to the 2023 full

year  margins.  Moving  on  to  fees  per  million  on  Slide  10  and  a  highlight  of  the  key  trends  for  the

quarter.

You can see slide 16 of the earnings presentation for additional detail regarding our fee per million

performance this quarter. For cash rates products, fees per million were up 4%, primarily due to an

increase in European and Australian government bond fees per million. For long-tenor swaps, fees

per million were down 2% primarily due to a slight increase in compression as well as a 3% decline

in  duration.  For  cash  credit  average  fees  per  million  decreased  12%  due  to  a  mix  shift  away  from

munis and sessions traded.

For cash equities, average fees per million were flat due to lower U.S. ETF fees per million given an

increase in notional per share traded. Recall in the U.S., we charge per share and not for notional

value traded. This was offset by a mix shift toward higher fee per million EU ETFs.

And finally within money markets, average fees per million decreased 8% driven by a mix shift away

from  higher  fee  per  million  U.S.  CDs  and  toward  our  growing  institutional  repo  business.  Slide  11

details  our  adjusted  expenses.  At  a  high-level,  the  scalability  and  variable  nature  of  our  expense

base allows us to continue to invest for growth and grow margins.

We  have  maintained  a  consistent  philosophy  here.  Adjusted  expenses  for  the  second  quarter

increased  25.8%  on  a  reported  basis  and  27%  on  a  constant-currency  basis.  Adjusted

compensation  cost 

increased  32.2%  due 

to 

increases  primarily 

in  performance-related

compensation headcount and severance. Excluding $2.9 million related to severance compensation

costs increased 29.4%.

Technology  and  communication  costs 

increased  29.6%  primarily  due 

to  our  previously

communicated investments in data strategy and infrastructure. Adjusted professional fees increased

6% mainly due to an increase in consulting costs. We expect professional fees to continue to grow

overtime, as we spend more on technology consulting to support our organic growth. General and

administrative costs increased due to a pickup in travel and entertainment which on a reported basis

was partially offset by FX gains year on year.

Favorable movements in FX resulted in a $1.7 million gain in the second quarter of 2024 versus a

$150,000  loss  in  the  second  quarter  of  2023.  Slide  12  details  capital  management  and  our

guidance.  On  our  cash  position  and  capital  return  policy.  We  ended  second  quarter  in  a  strong

position with a $1.72 billion in cash and cash equivalents and free cash flow reached approximately

$722 million for the trailing 12 months.

Recall, we intend to pay $785 million in cash consideration for ICD once it closes. Our net interest

income of $21 million increased due to a combination of higher cash balances and interest yields.

This was primarily driven by the higher interest rate environment and more efficient management of

our cash. With this quarter's earnings the board declared a quarterly dividend of $0.10 per Class A

and Class B shares.

Turning  to  updated  guidance  for  2024,  in  light  of  strong  business  momentum  and  the  anticipated

closing of ICD shortly, we are increasing our adjusted expense guidance from $805 million. We now

expect to be in the $830 million to $860 million range for 2024. Including the anticipated closing of

ICD,  we  are  currently  trending  toward  the  midpoint  of  this  range  which  would  represent  an

approximate  22%  increase  versus  our  2023  adjusted  expenses.  Focusing  on  organic  growth  the

midpoint of this range would represent an approximately 16% increase.

Bridging the gap from $805 million to the midpoint of our new range, 63% of this increase is coming

from  the  inclusion  of  ICD  with  30%  and  7%  coming  from  better  business  momentum  and  the

recently  announced  management  changes  respectively.  Provided  that  ICD  closes  shortly,  revenue

from ICD is expected to be approximately $40 million over the next five months. Recall, we plan to

invest  in  technology  and  marketing  during  the  first  12  months  post  closing  which  we  expect  may

temporarily push ICD's adjusted EBITDA margin down to 47% to 49%. All in, primarily factoring in

the  better  business  momentum  we  now  expect  our  2024  adjusted  EBITDA  margin  expansion  to

slightly exceed 2023 levels.

At  the  same  time  we  expect  to  capitalize  on  the  anticipated  healthy  revenue  environment  by

accelerating  investments  to  support  our  current  and  future  organic  growth.  This  includes

infrastructure-related  investments  such  as  further  enhancements  to  our  global  credit  tech  stack,

expanding our integration capabilities to allow for cloud-based Python integration and retail platform

enhancements  to  support  the  growth  in  trading  activity  we've  seen  in  recent  years.  We  are  also

selectively making small investments in emerging digital technologies such as blockchain and digital

assets  in  order  to  leverage  and  benefit  from  their  technical  expertise  without  having  to  make

significant  investment  to  experiment  in-house.  We  now  expect  our  capex  and  capitalized  software

development to be about $77 million to $85 million for 2024.

Acquisition  and  Refinitiv  transaction-related  D&A,  which  we  adjust  out  due  to  the  increase

associated with pushdown accounting, is now expected to be $158 million. We continue to expect

2024  and  2025  revenues  generated  under  the  new  master  data  agreement  with  LSEG  to  be

approximately  $80  million  and  $90  million  respectively.  Now,  I'll  turn  it  back  to  Billy  for  concluding

remarks.

Billy Hult -- Chief Executive Officer

Thanks  Sara.  Tradeweb  thrives  unchanged  and  we  look  forward  to  solving  complex  problems.

Change can happen very fast or very slowly but we want to be that trusted partner that our clients

look  toward  to  drive  innovation  in  the  market.  It's  a  great  time  to  be  in  the  risk  intermediation

business.

I feel good about our future growth outlook. With a couple of important month-end trading days left

in July which tend to be our strongest revenue days average daily revenue growth is trending at a

high teens growth rate relative to July 2023. The diversity of our growth remains a theme. We are

seeing  strong  volume  growth  across  global  government  bonds  mortgages  interest  rate  swaps

corporate credit and repos.

Our IG and high-yield share are trending above 18% and 7% respectively in July. I would also like to

welcome  Amy  Clack  to  the  team  who  will  be  joining  Tradeweb  in  August  as  chief  administrative

officer and as a member of the executive committee. Amy brings more than 25 years of experience

and will oversee operations business integration risk and corporate services. Finally, I would like to

conclude my remarks by thanking our clients for their business and partnership in the quarter and I

want  to  thank  my  colleagues  for  their  efforts  that  contributed  to  the  best  second  quarter  revenues

and volumes at Tradeweb.

With that, I will turn it back to Ashley for your questions.

Ashley Serrao -- Head of Treasury, FP&A, and Investor Relations

Thanks, Billy. As a reminder please limit yourself to one question only. Feel free to hop back in the

queue and ask additional questions at the end. Q&A will end at 10:30 a.m.

Eastern Time. Operator, we can now take our first question.

Operator

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