LAM-RESEARCH Earningcall Transcript Of Q2 of 2024


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Bettinger, executive vice president and chief financial officer. During today's call, we will share our

overview  on  the  business  environment,  and  we'll  review  our  financial  results  for  the  June  2024

quarter and our outlook for the September 2024 quarter.

The press release detailing our financial results was distributed a little after 1:00 p.m. Pacific Time.

The  release  can  also  be  found  on  the  Investor  Relations  section  of  the  company's  website  along

with  the  presentation  slides  that  accompany  today's  call.  Today's  presentation  and  Q&A  include

forward-looking  statements  that  are  subject  to  risks  and  uncertainties  reflected  in  the  risk  factors

disclosed in our SEC public filings.

Please see accompanying slides in the presentation for additional information. Today's discussion of

our financial results will be presented on a non-GAAP financial basis unless otherwise specified. A

detailed  reconciliation  between  GAAP  and  non-GAAP  results  can  be  found  in  the  accompanying

slides in the presentation. This call is scheduled to last until 3:00 p.m.

Pacific Time. A replay of this call will be made available later this afternoon on our website. And with

that, I'll hand the call over to Tim. 

Timothy M. Archer -- President, Chief Executive Officer, and Director

Thanks, Rob, and good afternoon, everyone. In the June quarter, Lam delivered another set of solid

results with revenues, profitability, and earnings per share, all coming in above the midpoint of our

guidance.  Our  CSBG  business  posted  strong  growth  with  revenues  up  22%  sequentially,  led  by

Reliant and spares. On the manufacturing side, we achieved a key milestone in the quarter with our

Malaysia factory shipping its 5,000th chamber.

This is the fastest ramp of a new manufacturing facility in Lam's history, and we remain on track to

achieve our long-term cost reduction goals through an expanded global manufacturing and supply

chain footprint. As previously communicated, 2024 is a year of strategic investment for Lam, where

we  are  prioritizing  product  development  for  key  technology  inflections,  global  R&D  infrastructure

close  to  our  customers,  and  digital  transformation  for  operational  efficiency  at  scale.  We  believe

these  investments  will  put  Lam  in  a  position  to  outperform  as  the  industry  moves  into  a  period  of

multi-year WFE spending expansion. Now, turning to WFE, we expect this year's spending to be in

the mid $90 billion range.

Our  customer  investment  profile  is  generally  unchanged  from  our  prior  view,  apart  from  slightly

stronger  domestic  China  spending  and  additional  demand  related  to  the  ramp  of  high-bandwidth

memory  or  HBM  capacity.  We  see  Foundry/Logic,  DRAM,  and  NAND  investments  all  up  on  a

year-on-year  basis.  Global  spending  on  mature  node  technologies  is  expected  to  be  roughly  flat

year on year. Looking ahead to 2025, we see a positive environment for continued growth in WFE

spending.

The power of AI is a transformative business tool is still yet to be fully realized. Today, the focus on

AI model training is driving strong demand for GPUs and HBM. However, as AI use cases expand,

we believe inferencing at the edge will spur content growth of low-power DRAM and NAND storage

in enterprise PCs and smartphones. Investments for AI-enabled edge devices play particularly well

to Lam's strengths.

We  anticipate  that  memory  customers  looking  to  scale  capacity  and  lower  bid  cost  will  bias  WFE

spending  toward  technology  upgrades  of  the  installed  base.  For  NAND,  the  etch  and  deposition

intensity  of  upgrades  is  significantly  higher  than  in  a  greenfield  investment.  When  you  consider

Lam's  sizable  installed  base  in  memory,  including  roughly  7,500  high  aspect  ratio  dielectric  etch

chambers  for  NAND  alone,  we  are  positioned  to  outgrow  overall  WFE  when  customers  upgrade

existing  memory  production  lines  to  next-generation  nodes.  Longer  term,  etch  and  deposition  are

set to play an increasingly vital role in the industry's efforts to develop faster, more power-efficient,

and  lower-cost  semiconductors  to  serve  AI-related  applications  by  delivering  critical  solutions  for

atomic-level device scaling, new materials innovation, and advanced packaging integration, we see

tremendous  opportunity  for  Lam  to  expand  our  served  market  and  increase  our  share  at  each

successive process technology node.

To  this  end,  our  R&D  focus  is  yielding  exciting  new  products,  including  this  year,  our  first  direct

power  coupled  conductor  etch  tool  with  matchless  power  source  and  bias,  known  as  Direct  Drive.

This  new  power  source  uses  solid-state  drivers  to  stabilize  the  plasma  in  the  etch  chamber  500

times faster than current industry standards. By combining direct power coupling with Lam's unique

plasma  pulsing  capabilities,  our  latest  conductor  etch  systems  are  delivering  best-in-class

performance for newly emerging 4F2 DRAM applications. In 4F2 devices, the nature of the bit line

placement  requires  precise  etching  of  ultra-small  high  aspect  ratio  of  silicon  structures  to  avoid

device shorts or leakage.

With  direct  power  coupling  and  plasma  pulsing,  Lam  connects  to  vertically  oriented  4F2  transistor

architectures with unprecedented depth uniformity and profile controller. Similarly, conductor etch is

becoming  a  critical  enabler  for  EUV  patterning  for  gate-all-around  and  DRAM  due  to  the  need  to

reduce etch placement error. For nodes below two nanometers, the requirement is for roughly 40%

tighter  control  than  at  five  nanometers.  Our  new  conductor  etch  tool  delivers  a  30%  reduction  in

feature roughness, which is one of the main contributors to etch placement error.

In addition, we can achieve one to two orders of magnitude improvement in defectivity for a given

EUV dose, further helping customers reduce the overall cost and improve the capability of the EUV

patterning process. Turning to NAND. AI applications are driving demand for faster, higher-capacity

enterprise  SSDs.  NAND  makers  are  pursuing  both  vertical  and  lateral  scaling  of  NAND  arrays  as

well as increasing bits stored per sell through implementation of QLC and PLC technologies.

In support of these efforts, Lam is developing new dielectric etch and deposition capabilities. Earlier

today, we announced Lam Cryo 3.0, Lam's third generation of cryogenic etch technology. Building

on our learning from nearly 1,000 cryogenic etch chambers, running in NAND fabs worldwide. This

new patented cryogenic etch process delivers industry-leading control of the NAND memory channel

hole profile.

When Lam Cryo 3.0 is deployed on our Vantex system, the etch are delivering the industry's highest

available ion energy, we can create a 10-micron deep channel hole that has a top-to-bottom profile

deviation of less than 10 nanometers or less than 0.1% relative to its depth. Such tight profile control

allows  customers  to  increase  bit  density  by  packing  more  cells  per  layer  while  also  having  the

flexibility  to  add  more  layers  per  tier.  Lam  Cryo  3.0  also  addresses  our  industry's  need  for  more

sustainable  solutions,  delivering  a  40%  reduction  in  energy  consumption  per  wafer  and  a  90%

reduction  in  greenhouse  gas  emissions  per  wafer  compared  to  non-cryogenic  etchers.  Deposition

technology  is  also  advancing  quickly  to  support  increased  bit  density  and  lower  cost  through

multi-tier stacking.

Polysilicon  and  tungsten  gap-fill  materials  have  typically  been  used  to  enable  tier  stacking  in

high-layer-count  NAND.  Integration  of  these  materials,  however,  has  resulted  in  poor  control  of

critical  dimensions  and  overlay,  negatively  impacting  yield  and  performance.  Ram's  innovative

PECVD-based pure carbon and gap-fill process provides an attractive alternative material. With the

unique  combination  of  high  etch  selectivity,  superior  mechanical  properties,  and  simplified  dry

post-process removability, it also reduces the number of process steps required in some cases by

approximately 50% compared to traditional approaches.

Overall,  etch  and  deposition  are  becoming  increasingly  critical  to  addressing  the  complex

semiconductor  requirements  of  a  growing  AI  environment.  We  are  excited  by  the  breadth  of

opportunities we see ahead for the company, especially those created by technology inflections to

gate-all-around backside power delivery, advanced packaging, and dry EUV resist processing. All of

these  are  etch  and  deposition  intensive  and  each  represents  a  $1  billion  or  higher  growth

opportunity  for  Lam.  We  look  forward  to  sharing  our  progress  on  these  fronts  as  well  as  our

long-term financial model at our next Investor Day, which we are planning to hold in February 2025.

With that, I'll turn it over to Doug.

Douglas R. Bettinger -- Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Great.  Thank  you,  Tim.  Good  afternoon,  everyone,  and  thank  you  for  joining  our  call  today.  We

executed well in the June 2024 quarter.

Our  June  quarter  results  came  in  above  the  midpoint  or  exceeded  our  guidance  ranges  for  all

financial  metrics.  We  were  pleased  with  the  company's  strong  execution.  For  fiscal  year  2024,  we

achieved  the  highest  gross  margin  percentage  since  the  merging  of  Lam  with  Novellus  in  2013,

coming  in  at  48.2%  and  we  generated  quite  strong  free  cash  flow  of  approximately  $4.3  billion  or

29% of revenue. Let's look at the details of our June quarter results.

Revenue  came  in  at  $3.87  billion,  which  was  an  increase  from  the  prior  quarter  and  over  the

midpoint of guidance. Our deferred revenue balance at the end of the quarter was -- or excuse me,

$1.55 billion, which is a decrease of $194 million in the March quarter related to revenue recognized

that  was  tied  to  customer  advanced  payments.  As  we  sit  here  today,  I  believe  deferred  revenue

remains stable at these levels for the foreseeable future. Let's turn to the revenue segment details.

June  quarter  systems  revenue  in  memory  was  36%,  which  was  a  decrease  from  the  prior  quarter

level of 44%. The decline in the memory segment was mainly attributable to DRAM. DRAM came in

at  19%  of  systems  revenue  compared  with  23%  in  the  March  quarter  as  investments  in  mature

nodes declined in the June quarter. DRAM revenue reached a new record in fiscal year 2024 with

spending focused on DDR5 and HBM enablement as well as on the 1Y node.

Nonvolatile  memory  came  in  at  17%  of  our  systems  revenue,  which  was  down  from  the  March

quarter  level  of  21%.  And  just  a  reminder,  we  are  characterizing  one  customer's  investment  in

specialty  DRAM  as  a  nonvolatile  investment  since  it  has  a  nonvolatile  component  in  the  device.

NAND revenue was at a low point for this year, and I expect NAND investment to gradually improve

as  utilization  rates  return  to  more  normal  levels  and  our  customers  slowly  increased  spending  in

conversions to 2xx and 3xx layer devices into the next year. The Foundry segment represented 43%

of  our  systems  revenue,  which  was  roughly  flat  with  the  percentage  concentration  in  the  March

quarter of 44%.

Growth  in  shipments  for  gate-all-around  nodes  was  offset  by  a  decline  in  mature  node  spending.

The  Logic  and  other  segment  were  21%  of  system  revenue  in  the  June  quarter,  up  from  the  prior

level of 12%. The increase was driven by strength in mature node spending in China. With respect

to  the  regional  composition  of  our  total  revenue,  the  China  region  came  in  at  39%,  down  slightly

from  the  prior  quarter  level  of  42%  and  a  little  bit  higher  than  our  expectations  from  the  previous

earnings call.

This was driven by domestic China spending. The next largest geographic concentration was Korea

at  18%  of  revenue  in  the  June  quarter,  versus  24%  in  the  March  quarter.  Taiwan  was  15%  of

revenue  in  the  June  quarter,  which  was  an  increase  from  9%  in  the  March  quarter.  The  customer

support business group revenue in the June quarter pulled approximately $1.7 billion, an increase of

22% from the prior quarter level and 14% higher than the June quarter and calendar 2023.

CSBG revenue represented 44% of our June quarter revenues and reached the highest point since

the end of calendar 2022, driven primarily by an increase in Reliant Systems, followed by growth in

spares.  Our  Reliant  Systems  revenue  benefited  from  strength  in  domestic  China  spending  for

specialty  and  mature  nodes.  Spares  revenue  increased  largely  due  to  continued  improvement  in

utilization at our memory customers as well as a little bit of inventory stocking. I do not think CSBG

will grow modestly in calendar year 2024.

Let's  look  at  profitability.  Our  June  quarter  gross  margin  came  in  at  48.5%  at  the  top  end  of  our

guided  range  and  slightly  down  from  48.7%  in  the  March  quarter.  June  quarter  gross  margin

benefited from continued improvement in factory efficiencies, which largely offset the headwind we

saw in customer mix that we talked about on the last earnings call. Operating expenses for the June

quarter were $689 million, down marginally from the prior-quarter amount of $698 million.

As  Tim  mentioned,  we  continue  to  prioritize  spending  in  research  and  development  to  extend  our

technology  differentiation  as  well  as  expand  our  product  portfolio.  I'd  just  point  out  that  more  than

70%  of  our  total  operating  expenses  were  concentrated  in  research  and  development.  The  June

quarter operating margin was 30.7%, above the guidance range mainly because of that strong gross

margin performance. Our non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was 11.5%.

We estimate the tax rate for the remainder of the calendar year 2024 to be in the low to mid-teens

level,  and  this  rate  will  fluctuate  from  quarter  to  quarter.  Other  income  and  expense  for  the  June

quarter was approximately $19 million in income compared with $10 million in income in the March

quarter. The increase in OI&E was primarily the result of fluctuations in the fair value of our venture

investments.  And  as  we've  talked  about  in  the  past,  you  will  see  variability  in  OI&E  quarter  to

quarter.

Let's look at the capital return. We allocated approximately $382 million to share repurchases, and

we  paid  $261  million  in  dividends  in  the  June  quarter.  During  the  quarter,  we  announced  that  our

board  of  directors  approved  a  $10  billion  share  repurchase  authorization.  We  have  $10.8  billion

remaining in the plan at the end of the June quarter.

For fiscal year 2024, we returned $3.7 billion or 88% of free cash flow, which was in line with our

long-term  capital  plans  of  returning  75%  to  100%  of  free  cash  flow.  June  quarter  diluted  earnings

per share were $8.14, close to the high end of our guidance range. The diluted share count was 131

million  shares  on  track  with  our  expectations  and  down  from  the  March  quarter.  Let's  look  at  the

balance sheet.

Cash and cash equivalents totaled $5.9 billion at the end of the June quarter, up a little bit from $5.7

billion at the end of the March quarter. Days sales outstanding were 59 days in the June quarter, a

slight  increase  from  57  days  in  the  March  quarter.  June  quarter  inventory  turns  of  1.9x  compared

with 1.8x in the prior quarter. We are making progress in bringing inventory levels down, and we'll

continue to work on this throughout the rest of calendar year 2024.

Our  noncash  expenses  for  the  June  quarter  included  approximately  $79  million  for  equity

compensation,  $74  million  in  depreciation,  and  $14  million  in  amortization.  Capital  expenditures

were  $101  million,  flat  with  the  March  quarter  level  was  spending  mainly  centered  on  lab

investments in the United States and Asia as well as manufacturing facilities in Asia, supporting our

global strategy to be close to our customers' development and manufacturing locations. We ended

the June quarter with approximately 17,200 regular full-time employees, which was flat with the prior

quarter. Let's turn to our non-GAAP guidance for the September 2024 quarter.

We're expecting revenue of $4.05 billion, plus or minus $300 million. Gross margin of 47%, plus or

minus  one  percentage  point.  This  gross  margin  decline  is  reflective  primarily  of  an  unfavorable

quarter-to-quarter  change  in  customer  mix.  I  expect  this  change  to  continue  to  be  a  slight

incremental headwind in the December quarter.

Operating  margins  of  29.5%,  plus  or  minus  one  percentage  point.  Gross  margin  and  operating

margin  included  impact  from  ongoing  transformation  costs  related  to  projects  to  improve  our

systems  and  operations.  As  we  communicated  at  the  beginning  of  the  year,  we're  focused  on

reengineering  our  business  processes  and  systems  to  drive  operational  efficiencies  and  to

implement AI at greater scale. And finally, we're forecasting earnings per share of $8 plus or minus

$0.75 based on a share count of approximately 131 million shares.

Let me wrap up. As we finish the first half of calendar year 2024, I was pleased that we were able to

execute to the objectives we shared at the beginning of the year. We prioritize investment to extend

our  technology  differentiation  while  driving  operational  improvements.  We're  encouraged  that  the

spares business recovery is beginning, and upgrade activity should improve as we exit the calendar

year.

Longer  term,  Lam  is  well-positioned  to  capitalize  the  increase  in  etch  and  deposition  intensity  by

delivering new capabilities and multiple new manufacturing inflections that we see ahead. We look

forward to talking to you in February at our planned Investor Day about the long-term opportunities

for Lam to continue our outperformance in the semiconductor industry. Operator, that concludes our

prepared remarks. Tim and I would now like to open up the call for questions.

Operator

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